I’m looking for a self-propelled push mower to help with a portion of my lawn which is probably 25 degrees or so, with a budget of about $1200. 3. Apply the hand brake, and then when the vehicle is stationary, re-start (if it stalled*) and gently reverse down the hill the way you came up. The pump also pumps oil through the filter before it goes through the oil ports. Would this be a good mower for what I am doing or should I look for something different. Been there done that more then once and its not fun lol My Granddad taught me a time that if you ever get in a bind like that just back up the hill. Yes, 40 degrees does look really steep when you are at the bottom, and it also looks steep when you are climbing it. There just aren't many good options when a tractor stops forward motion on a steep hill. Digdeep, Dec 26, 2010 #5. brynbaily Well-Known Member. RWD or AWD? The tractor can pull stuff and is easy to install a bagger. Biggest bang for the buck? My thing is that I can fabricate anything…and I mean anything. This mower is actually built heavier than most of the residential zero=turn mowers. Just purchased a house in Kalamazoo, MI. Pick a path you know you can make. Hence, the … The first 6 to 10 feet of turf by the water’s edge is water-logged and your mower will sink in and tip over. I can’t spend anymore than 2500. 2. Why? 855 4×4 v/s arjun novo on steep climb// 4wd benifits.#swaraj855#4×4tractormodel#gobindmodelmaker The weights do seem to help keep the front wheels on the ground, though, so I’m not sure what to do. If other vehicles are using this road you should be fine. I want a riding mower and was going to go with a zero turn but am rethinking it after everything I’m reading. Maybe the engine has the power but you don't have enough traction. Generally speaking, brakes are for stopping, NOT slowing down in tractor usage, that’s what the trans is for. If it is too steep to mow, turn it into a landscape bed or wildlife area. The yard is pretty smooth overall. For a coefficient of … By the way, I hate the 42 inch Cub Cadet, Troy-Bilt and Craftsman ZTR’s. Hi Michael, The problem is your ditch and probably the engines you are buying. Let the clutch back out? The Intek Plus and better engines (oil filter has the yellow label) all have full lubrication and will handle extended use on slopes. Hi Natilia, Yes, going up your driveway with a lawn tractor will be fine. Never attempt to mow or drive up the hill. Victory loves preparation. Hi John, What is the brand and model of the ZTR. It makes no difference where the sedemnt bowl is as long as the fuel in the tank is higher than the carburetor. Slope and brush mowers have a very low centre of gravity and are often four-wheel drive for added traction. Many people don’t read the operator’s manual or feel these warning statements are “just guidelines.” Even staying under 15 degrees there are still ways to tip your lawn tractor or zero-turn mower over. They come in single and twin cylinder models and have no oil filter. They are flat-landers only. Paul, thanks for the suggestion. I would actually suggest a 46 inch if there was one with a heavy trans. 1 decade ago. If when you’re travelling up a hill and you encounter a flat spot, it may be a good idea to pick up another gear and improve your momentum. Uneven terrain could overturn the machine. Here again, should the front end raise up, droping the rear implement puts the tractor back into control. Been there done that more then once and its not fun lol Well as long as you have enough gas in the tank it shouldn't be a problem, but if to low it could be. Thanks. Thank you for the reply, Paul. Just keep telling yourself: I think I can, I think I can! Honestly, if this mower was any faster we’d have to call it a dune buggy. Steep hills can be muddy, rocky, or a combination of both. If this is your first time or you are planning on doing it, the safest option is to pick a hill that is not steep or apply to an ATV training course. In the case of a splash lubricating engine mowing a steep grade is not recommended as the oil pools to one side of the crank case and won’t splash sufficiently. The Craftsman Pro Series 46″ 24 HP V-Twin Kohler Riding Mower with Turn Tight® Extreme is a really good choice for someone who wants a zero-turn but either can’t spend the money or doesn’t like to drive the lap-bar style. ZTR’s are balanced so you have traction in the rear because that’s where all the turning occurs. Hi Ray, I’m sorry I’m behind this week. Fianlly, There is one mid-priced mower that I like. Going up a steep hill is much easier with a FEL on than coming back down, something to think about. I agree, a 54 inch is almost too big for 1/2 acre. If you don’t know the brand ask me. They use full pressure engines on the commercial models that won’t blow up on slopes greater than 15 degrees. Thank you for such a great site. Any other rider is just an accident/death waiting to happen. "@type": "ImageObject", A sideways rollover can happen when a tractor turns too sharply or on too steep … Still looking for a machine for 1 acre with half of it sloped with many trees…now considering Cub Cadet XT2, RZTS,or Craftsman Pro, all 42″. I am looking for something that can haul a yard cart, roller, etc- and not be overly rattled by the lumps, bumps, and tiny stumps that litter this lawn. I doubt that's a good thought. If is feels wrong, if the hill feels too steep, if the tractor doesn’t feel right, I don’t mow it. Any advice to help me make a decision would be greatly appreciated. Most lawn or garden tractors are not designed to be driven up steep hills or slopes. Hi, What happens on a steep hill when your tractor has no more climb left in it? You did not mention how big the yard is so here is an alternative. Right now I am using a residential John Deere with a 42 ” deck and hydrostatic transmission but the tranny is failing. … About 1.2 lawn with varying slopes from level to 15 degrees for the most part. Cutting Deck, Model# 12AE76JU011. Keep all movement on slopes slow and gradual. What am I losing with the 46″ Yard Tractor compared to the 50″ Garden Tractor? Self propelled? There are those who will say that's how folks learn to drive tractors. Perhaps the engine bogs right down and nearly quits. I would appreciate all recommendations what is the best lawn tractor for my needs . Rollovers are another concern with all ride-on mowers, contributing to the more than 15,000 injuries and 61 deaths associated with those machines for 2007, according to estimates based on CPSC data. If the ZTR will not mow the hill – you have the WRONG mower for the job. Know your limits, be safe, and don’t try anything you’re not ready for. So you hit the hill faster, or if there is only one section that is tricky, say a root you lose traction on, then you hit it with … Well as long as you have enough gas in the tank it shouldn't be a problem, but if to low it could be. Dropping a disk harrow to the ground goes a long way towards getting the center of gravity down, putting sponsons down and safely stopping or slowing the tractor. I was looking at the cub cadet, but was teetering taken it off with reviews of uneven cuts with its floating deck on hills, so the castered wheel argument pretty much seals the there. This can help the rider climbing steep hills by using the motor in the lower gears of the bicycle. We have a 6.3 acre farm, mostly divided into pastures for 2 horses. How to Mow a Steep Hill With a Riding Mower. So, I have had 4 craftsman lawn tractors over the last 21 years. Dropping a disk harrow to the ground goes a long way towards getting the center of gravity down, putting "sponsons" down and safely stopping or slowing the tractor. Hello, I might be in the market for a new mower (not zero turn) and my yard is flat. The Husqvarna Z246 and others in that price range are not heavy enough to stay on slopes. You may want to consider spending a few hundred more and getting a mower with a heavier-duty transmission. Please Subscribe to my YouTube Channel Please Note: If you click on most of the links in this article and buy any product I will make a small commission from that sale. Going side-to-side, I’m finding it very problematic to control the sideways slide downhill which basically just rips up the grass. (This Last From Consumer Reports) What we tested, what we found. I don’t want to buy a $2K mower and have it ruined by mowing the junk with it. Pick a path you know you can make. Thanks…those are some of the models I was considering after reading many of your articles…You da man!! Be sure to buy one with non-castering front wheels. Take a look at this Cub Cadet: XT1 LT42 with IntelliPower™. Thank you. I noted in one of your previous postings you recommended the Toro T-bar mower. Turn Around. The engines are splash lubricated and will blow up on slopes greater than 15 degrees. I was wondering which mower you would recommend. Even the most stable riding mower can slide, flip, or roll on steep terrain. I’ve had all the problems with various ZTRs over the years I just talked about and worked with engineers to get these mowers as safe as possible. The back yard is wider than it is deep as the property is on a “code sac” so its pie shaped and has a retaining wall at the back property line. Jim Nicholson If this is an engineered road, and passable with cars and pickups, to get to your property, and!!!! Perhaps you can break left or right wheel to gain traction. Its price is much more modest (about $1300). You will run the wheels off of them in a year. In most cases this will not hold you on the hill, instead, you will slide down the hill. My issue is that our property is very sloped and I need to get from the lower level (where I’d like to store the mower) to the upper level (where there is actually flatter land to mow) and to do so, I’d have to go up our driveway, which is steeper than 15 degrees for sure. Most tractors don't break real well going forward let alone backward. John, I've climbed some pretty steep hills with my b7800 and also went down some pretty steep incline with the bucket almost touching the ground to prevent going over frontwards with much caution and very low speed. You can ride on the level and let the mower hang down the slope. Thanks Paul. Its just to steep to work safely with a 2 wheel tractor as the tractor will run out of adhesion before it runs out of hill and gravity will not be your friend in this case. That said, the machine is very tough and reliable. They will not last more than a few years. Thankyou. With the trees and other obstructions to mow around I am going to suggest a Craftsman Pro Series. You need a lawn tractor with a full-pressurized engine. I've done the same thing when on a side hill and things were getting scary. I don’t know if that’s because of the slope or the engine itself. Practicing is the Key. The tractor turns almost as tight as a zero-turn so it’s a lot more agile. This is the … "height": 57 Hi again! The Cub Cadet also has a much wider stance so it won’t tip over as quickly. Thanks for all of your help! Consumer Reports gave it the same rating as the D125 and the X304. What happens on a steep hill when your tractor has no more climb left in it? I have a Ryobi Zero-turn and wish I’d read this article before I bought it. Perhaps others have good ideas on what to do. New, the commercial mowers are out of my price range, but maybe I can find a good used one. I have been afraid to go down the hill on my newly restored Farmall A because I wasn't sure I could get back up, with a gravity feed carburetor. Thank you! There are mowers designed to mow hills but the cheapest one on the market is over $10,000. Think about it. Yes, you may have to drive around the house a dozen times to do this, but it is the only way. Has very good traction Has a tendency to flip over when going down steep hills … Hi Patrick, I went back and read your original comment and I picked the 50 inch because you thought the 54 inch might be too big. Per several of your recommendations, I have been considering the Craftsman 54″ Fast Auto 24 HP Briggs & Stratton V-Twin Turn Tight® Garden Tractor but am concerned about the 54″ deck being too big. Good advice. You don't want to practice 2/3 of the way up. What does that mean? One thing I keep telling the Little Cowman, whatever you do on a hill, ALWAYS LEAVE THE TRANSMISSION IN GEAR AND DON'T PUSH THE CLUTCH IN. But, I’ve never actually seen one – let alone used one. You may have just save my life as we received a ZTR along with the property. Whatcha think?? On garden tractor, there may be too much weight on the rear hitch. "@context":"http://schema.org", Do not use them on steep slopes. I think he had a Model T. don't test it don't test it", Light, sandy soil especially. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", … Unless the Farmall A is low in gas, it will climb the hill if cars and pickups are. It is steep. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give here. The situation i"m … Many of the commercial companies make a standon rider with a 36 inch deck. We used a typical 4.5 mph mowing speed over both dry and wet grass, going up and down as you should with most ride-on machines. It features a fabricated deck and locking differential. There's been numerous times when dropping an implement to the ground got the situation back in control. Would you put the Toro on top of all these? Never let the desire to … Unfortunately the web page states delivery or store pickup not available in my area for the Craftsman Pro 50″. It is four feet high and 100 feet long. It might be a ridiculous quesion but my old car Scion XA (also 4 cylinder) certainly had a hard time going up hills. Does it look like one side of the deck is lower than the other and it is cutting uneven? 2020 Cub Cadet Ultima ZTX Zero-Turn Mowers – Better, Bigger, Badder! Hi Alan, the steering wheel ZTRs are fine for slopes. What are your thoughts? Rolling the tractor is not worth cutting an extra bit of grass. However, putting a heavy implement on the back makes the front end lighter, so like Hugh suggested, putting weight on the front wheels is a good offsetting idea. Wheels just start spinning. Thanks in advance. "publisher": { That’s less intuitive than a tractor’s foot brake. I live in southern missouri and have 1 acre not very rough but with a 15 slope. 2020 The Best Residential Zero Turn Mowers, 2021 The Thirteen Best 42-46 Inch Zero Turn Mowers, 2020 The Sixteen Best 48-52 Inch Zero Turn Mowers, 2020 The Sixteen Best 54-72 Inch Residential Zero Turn Mowers, 2020 Cub Cadet ZT1, ZT2, ZT3 Zero-Turn Mowers. Grandpa was right. The trouble began when we made a hard turn down 10- to 15-degree slopes. While you may not notice it going up a hill – going down the hill is when all the problems occur. or the ditch? You can't in any way compare the stability or slope operating capability of a SSL to a CTL. They are only there to help the deck go over tree roots, landscape edging and other obstructions in your yard. Briggs states these engine will handle slopes and they will, for short time. Hi Alan, Both the picture and the description are wrong. This is aggravated by wet grass or drought-dry grass. I've done the same thing when on a side hill and things were getting scary. If is feels wrong, if the hill feels too steep, if the tractor doesn’t feel right, I don’t mow it. How steep a hill can an e-bike climb? They still don't go up as steep a hill in reverse as well they can when going forward. It can go badly very fast if you get half way up a hill only to find a rut or steep incline you weren’t prepared for. If it is then use the deck leveling procedure in the manual to level the deck from side-to-side. Now it does take a bit of commons sence, no speed shifting, no sudden starts or stops and be sure you are in the gear that will climb the hill. I'd put a disk harrow or plow on the back to be available to drop should the tractor bog down or quit. Check out their new slope mower, the Automower® 435X AWD robotic mower, I was speaking with a Husqvarna dealer in my area (western North Carolina) this spring about robotic mowers and he said the AWD version was not yet available in the US and was probably a year or two from being available. All-Wheel Drive Personal Pace. Attempting to climb too steep of hills can be very dangerous. I nee to buy me a new tractor in the next month, so i was thinking about a John Deere. Any pictures of the hill so we can see it? I went to the edge of a big drainage and the brakes failed and I had one hell of a ride down into a flowing drainage culvert. This John Deere Tractor looks like its about to tip over on this steep hill as it mows. On how steep a hill (maximum angle) can you leave a car parked? Despite sharing a few key qualities, lawn tractors, particularly when operated on slopes, differ greatly than traditional push mowers. Do not mow near drop-offs, ditches or embankments. Hi I live in Woodstock, Ontario, Canada, we have a 40 acre campground with all sorts of terrain. Otherwise, a tractor will go down any hill, just depends upon what you want it to look like at the bottom. Hi John, The ultimate and safest setup for hills is the new ExMark Staris stand-on, Wright Stander ZK Dually, Ventrac 4000 series, Cub Cadet Pro Z steering wheel, and Kut Kwick Super Slope Master. The brakes may not work at all in reverse. We appreciate your insights. If you can’t go up and down them don’t ever try to mow them sideways with a rider. Georgia Boy: Are cars and pickup trucks climbing this hill? Whats your thoughts between the RZT-S, RZT-L, RZT-LX, RZT – 46 H? On a slope. 22 HP as an option. All though I know that no mower is recommended foe anything above 15. Adding weight to the front end causes you to lose traction in the rear. Mowing commercially for many years I have had too many close calls and I still use my “Pucker-meter” all the time. There's been numerous times when dropping an implement to the ground got the situation back in control. Why? Luckily in seconds I raised the deck and shot off PTO in the nick of time. Cub Cadet dealer tells me their zero turn is great on slopes, the Craftsman currently have great online pricing…curious what your thoughts are…Thanks. !if your brakes are good enough to slide the tires (and they should be) there is no doubt that the tractor can make it. After you have known the right technique to handle slopes, find a suitable time to mow your hill with your self propelled riding lawn mower or garden tractor.The ideal time to mow steep slopes is when the weather is dry, and the sun reaches its peak in the day so that the slope is not wet or slippery, and the brightness is perfect. They can go pretty steep. They are usually in the cheapest lawn tractors in a brands line. It's not something most have thought about or prepared for. BOB. Always use a low speed to ensure you can accurately control your movements. Briggs Intek, John Deere E100/E110 or Craftsman Gold with the yellow oil filter are examples of this type of engine. The brakes may not work at all in reverse. The front yard is flat with only two trees and the back yard only has two trees and a few obstacles, although we are planning for more trees in the future, front and back. Lee raises good questions. However, if you’ve only spun at 200 RPM, you can just ease your foot off the throttle a little bit, bring the revs down, and the wheels will probably catch and you can ease back into it again. The brakes may not work at all in reverse. Leg room has never been an issue for our family, which varies from 5'5 to 6'. If you live in the southeast, Sarlo has one of the best 32 inch mowers on the market. Or maybe just the grass variety (mostly cereal rye) is making it worse? } Hi Chris, The Troy Bilt WC33 XP™ Wide Cut Self-Propelled Mower is the same mower as the Cub Cadet so it has the same concerns. It's not something most have thought about or prepared for. I am looking to replace the machine and I am considering cub cadet lx 46 or Husqvarna YT46LS. The surface is not terrible, but uneven enough to stop a standard small tire push mower. Very low cut at the highest setting, surfed the web, appears to be a problem with this brand. A SSL will not climb a 1:1 and that angle would most likely starve your oil pump in continuous use anyway. Gwen mows around her pond, uses the tough cut in the … That is probably why my big box John Deere did not last very long. Thanks, Also, what are your opinions on Lowe’s Troy Bilt line? Going slow and low is always good. Just keep telling yourself: "I think I can, I think I can!" And if you like the 4 wheeler idea what brand pull behind mower. I know the recommendation is to mow side-to-side, but what I find is that the mower slips/veers way too easily downhill, and if I push it upward diagonally to maintain the proper height while moving across the hill, then it’s skidding quite badly and ripping up the grass constantly. ZT is obviously out and im assuming tractor is too much mower for too much obstacle. Here’s how to conquer the steep … The slope on one side of the back yard extends about 30+ feet but the opposite side is a bit more gradual and extends the entire length from front of house to back property line. "interactionType": "http://schema.org/CommentAction", 2 Answers. I’m not sure about the Craftsman Pro. Lee raises good questions. Maybe you can jump off at the instant the thing stops forward motion. Our septic tank is in the front and we have a well in the back yard. The best way to climb a hill is by doing it, try doing it on a hill that is not to steep, and learn from it. Old tractor brakes don't always hold and as long as you leave it in gear the engine compression will give you at least some degree of braking and help you to maintain control. Craftsman and others I suggest a model with a Kohler or Kawasaki engine. Throw it in reverse and back down? Know your limits, be safe, and don’t try anything you’re not ready for. The tranny in the T100 series is very light duty. Last time in Moab I made a point of trying some of the steep stuff: Upchuck and Hummer Hill on Behind the Rocks, Where Eagles Dare, Kenny's Climb on Fins N Things. That’s normal. Do not shift to neutral and coast downhill. What advice or information can you provide to compare these two models? I’ve been using ZTR’s since they came out in 1993. Mowing is easier than ever before. Thanks again…99% sure that’s the one I’ll get. Why, I wonder, isn’t anyone recommending this? The best one right now is the Toro Recycler 22 in. If other vehicles are using this road you should be fine. Perhaps you can break left or right wheel to gain traction. Hi Alan, No Problem, it took me years to learn all the little things about lawn mowers. Favorite Answer. I think he had a Model T. Yes, it will handle slopes better than a comparable lap bar ZTR. Because of my sloped back yard, do I need to consider a mower with a locking differential? Jim Nicholson It makes no difference where the sedemnt bowl is as long as the fuel in the tank is higher than the carburetor. Not sure where your guest is writing from but would be interested to know if my info is correct, there is regional availability or perhaps my info is just wrong. Who needs crossfit when you have a hill to carve (I like crossfit and have a friend who owns a gym). – The next step up engines add a small oil pump that pumps the oil through a filter – but the lubrication is still a splash system. I have also been looking at the Husqvarna line at Lowes. Oddly, according the the pitch and roll gauges in the Off Road Pages they are all exactly 35 degrees (=70%) at the steepest point. One thing I’ve done that I haven’t seen anyone suggest is add 55 pounds of weight to the front, which is helping to keep the front wheels down. "text": "I live in a sparsely populated neighborhood where the main road in climbs a pretty steep hill for about 800 feet, as steep as allowed by the county engineering department. Adding weight to the front end of a ZTR is very dangerous! I think he had a Model T. I think thats what brought it up one time when I was little. But the Craftsman gets better reviews. Maybe you can jump off at the instant the thing stops forward motion. I've done the same thing when on a side hill and things were getting scary. }. Also, much off this country (Washington state west of the mountains) stays soggy. There are other mowers that will handle slopes but all of them are commercially rated. Read more here: How to Support TodaysMower.com. Has very good traction Has a tendency to flip over when going down steep hills Back wheel often gets stuck Not good on rocky terrain (e.g the Cave stage) The color scheme may have been inspired … It worked for me. It was a close call between Logs and Old, but the latter edged it. I need to get a new push mower for our yard. You are constantly running over uncut grass! Nonetheless would appreciate your opinion of the mower for use on steeper slopes or recommendation for a similar product in the same price range. Craftsman Pro Series 46″ 24 HP V-Twin Kohler Riding Mower with Turn Tight® Extreme. Go Slow and Know When to Stop . If you are considering a John Deere you need one of the 100 series models with the John Deere Extended Life Engine or any of the models from the X240 or X300 series. We have a big Kubota tractor for most of the grounds, however it cannot fit in some areas like the mini golf course and most sites. 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